Newsmax host Greg Kelly and body language expert Lena Sisco analyzed Dr. Anthony Fauci’s Senate testimony, arguing that his posture, facial expressions, and physical movements revealed fear, stress, and what Sisco described as a lack of respect for those questioning him.
Kelly opened the discussion by reflecting on Fauci’s appearance before senators.
“Man, what a difference the truth makes!” Kelly said. “He was at times petrified, at times contemptuous, at times well.”
Introducing Sisco, Kelly asked for her overall assessment.
“Welcome back, Lena. I want to show you some specific clips, but do me a favor. Overall, just give us a quick snapshot. What kind of man did you see today testifying?”
Sisco did not hesitate.
“A liar.”
She referenced comments made during the hearing by Sen. Josh Hawley.
“I think Senator Awley. I hope I’m pronouncing his name right. He couldn’t have said it better. He said nothing says honesty more than taking the fifth.”
According to Sisco, refusing to answer questions can reflect concern about revealing deception.
“Listen, liars don’t want to talk because they’re so afraid that they’re going to give away the truth in their body language or words, so they say nothing.”
She added, “And that was the big elephant in the room today.”
Kelly then played footage showing Fauci repeatedly placing his fingertips together during the hearing.
“I found this to be I don’t know, I don’t know what the hell. What do you make of that? It says something.”
Sisco identified the gesture as a “steeple.”
“It does, and you’re right. So it’s a steeple, and it’s a power pose.”
She said the gesture often followed visible nervous behavior.
“But the funny thing is, is that he did it after he was fidgeting?”
According to Sisco, Fauci alternated between playing with his pen out of boredom and nervousness.
“So if you watched him play with his pen often, there were some times he played with it out of complete boredom, as though he wanted to leave, and other times out of nervous energy.”
She concluded that the hand gesture appeared calculated.
“Whenever he didn’t know what to do with his hands, he would go right to here to say, ‘Nope, I have to regain power and authority.’ But it was all contrived.”
Kelly also pointed to Fauci’s posture throughout the hearing.
“I found him. He was slouching a little bit.”
He added, “You know, if you were a nine-year-old kid at dinner, your mom would tell you to sit up a little bit.”
Sisco interpreted the body position as a subconscious response to fear.
“When the body curls up like balls in, his chin would tuck. He’d look down. He’d close his shoulders in. That is a subconscious reaction to fear.”
She explained that people instinctively protect vulnerable areas of the body when experiencing fear.
“So when we have fear, we will tend to protect our body. This is the most vulnerable spot of the body, the neck.”
Rather than touching his neck directly, Sisco said Fauci protected it by changing his posture.
“And you can see him by covering it up this way. And some people may touch their neck, but he doesn’t. He just tips and kind of curls over and avoids eye contact.”
Kelly next played video from Sen. Bernie Moreno (R-Ohio), who challenged Fauci during the hearing.
Moreno urged Fauci to acknowledge people who he said had been criticized for expressing views that later proved accurate.
“If you thought closing schools was catastrophically stupid, and that you thought that during these times saying these things made you somehow a lesser human being, Dr. Fauci, you just turn around and look at the people Behind you,” Moreno said.
“You’re not willing to do that. That’s not a question. It’s not a question to your lawyers. Not a question. It’s a request.”
Moreno continued, “All you have to do is look up from your lawyers and look at the people who were absolutely shamed for saying what we know now to be the truth. You can’t even look at him.”
After the clip, Kelly asked Sisco for her reaction.
“Wow! Did he want to? He looked a little scared there.”
Sisco said she noticed something different.
“He, but he also had a little smile on his face.”
She said Fauci displayed similar expressions several times during the hearing.
“And a couple times after he would be asked a question and gave us his canned response. He would smile.”
According to Sisco, that expression communicated confidence rather than concern.
“And that smile is, ‘I’m getting one over on you. I won this.'”
She concluded that Fauci showed little respect toward those addressing him.
“So for me, I really don’t think he cares at all.”
She added, “If he did, he would have turned around and looked at them out of respect. He has no respect.”
Kelly then turned to questioning by Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), who discussed scientific debate over natural immunity.
“My favorite quote from that is from Martin Koldor from from Harvard,” Paul said. “You called him one of the people that you had to take down, the fringe epidemiologist.”
Paul continued, “He jokingly said on Twitter, he said, ‘Yeah, we knew about natural immunity from 486 BC, from the time of the Athenian plague, we lost all knowledge of it in 2020. The good news is it’s slowly coming back, 24 to 2025. We’re beginning to understand what natural immunity is again-not something perfect, but a useful tool that could have been used, but also something that could have helped people.'”
Kelly then asked Sisco what she observed.
“What’s going on?”
Sisco said Fauci appeared significantly more stressed during Paul’s questioning.
“This topic stressed him out.”
She explained that several physical reactions suggested elevated stress.
“So I can tell that cortisol spiked in his system for two reasons.”
“Number one, he did this eye blink flutter, and when cortisol releases in the body, and it’s our stress hormone, it dries us out in our mouth and in our eyes.”
She also pointed to repeated face touching.
“And the next thing he started doing was touching his face a lot.”
Sisco concluded that the movements were consistent with someone experiencing heightened stress.
“Right, he’s scratching and touching. When cortisol releases in the body, we go into fight or flight. The blood goes to our head; it makes the surface of our skin itchy.”
She added, “So he’s scratching intensely during this question. That tells me it is very stressful for him.”
Kelly ended the segment with a joke directed at Sisco.
“Damn! I think I’m gonna just put my hands in my pockets, if I ever see you.”
Sisco quickly replied, “No, don’t do that. That’s not good.”
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